Peace? [Shun]

Subject: Peace? [Shun] Sun Aug 23, 2015 7:14 pm

....this honestly felt weird to do. For several reasons. Yet, it sounded like the best possible option at the moment. It was true that he said that he was not very keen on seeing Shun again, but that was mostly because he was pretty sure he would not get any good reaction. Or if the teen would even willingly stay around him. Still, he did not think that was a solution in the end. They couldn't avoid each other forever, and to be honest, he could see Hyde for example randomly doing something that would cause them to meet up. That could blow pretty badly. And he did not want that to happen. Not that there was any guarantee he could do anything even now, but it was worth a try? As much as text messages annoyed him. Typing something on phone is a pain, mainly when it ends up being long. Sadly, it's not like he had the teen's email address or such, so he had do work with this. For now.

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Hi.

...I know you most likely have no interest in actually talking to me, but I thought I could at least try. I don't like the idea of being on bad terms just because of what happened.

Although, I guess you don't have to respond if you don't want to. That's the good thing about messages, right...?

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Well, he would have to see if this went anywhere. For all intents and purposes, he couldn't really force Shun to interact with him. But at least he gave it a try.

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Shunnosuke was lying in bed, reading some fashion magazine when the cellphone rang, taking his attention away. Who could it be by this time? By elimination, Hyde was obviously off the cut. He wasn’t like his mother who would send messages because she was “too tired” to walk to his room and actually speak to him in person, an habit she’s the only one of the family to sustain. As for the team he associated with in the last months, well, he barely talked to them except when they had to meet up and discuss important things. His former friends from Penecia were also a no-go. Well, so who could it be?

...the moment he saw the name on his cellphone, his heart froze. Him. Why did he still have his contact number, anyway? He was sure they wouldn’t talk anymore, unless by some “coincidence”, they happened to be at the same place at the same time, the place and time being related to their obligations to save Azores. Urgh. Felt like a punch in the stomach. Whether he wanted or not, he still had feelings for him, that won’t vanish from one second to another in the blink of an eye. The last meeting was far from the ideal, and he was coming to terms with the fact that everything was definitely over for good, that their goodbye was the last one. So why? The man was right, Shunnosuke didn’t have any interest in talking to him right now, or ever. Not after feeling ultimately diminished and destroyed. He couldn’t think of anything more than Sharaku being cynical and sadistic. Like, you know the other part doesn’t want to talk to you ever again, you know the person doesn’t have to respond, and yet you send a message anyway. Is that some kind of bad-taste joke?

“Try what?”, Shunnosuke typed furiously and quickly, though before he would press the send button, he...hesitated. Is that right? Is that all he had to say? Ah, whatever. He wasn’t in the mood to be talkative. Not to him. So be it, button pressed and may God, if there’s any, have mercy on his soul.

Subject: Re: Peace? [Shun] Sun Aug 23, 2015 8:47 pm

Shortest answer in history? Maybe. Then again, an answer is better than no answer. To a certain degree, he did expect that he may get ignored afterall. He wouldn't have been be too surprised by that. So technically, any kind of answer was a win in a way. Although, he wasn't really sure how to respond to that. Wasn't the answer obvious from the way he had phrased it originally...?

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To talk..?

Or am I forbidden from trying to converse? I'm not trying to be rude...

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..he honestly didn't know what else to say at this point. Perhaps talking through text wasn't as easy. It's fairly easy to misinterpret the intention when you only have a plain text in front of you. Probably easier than doing so when you actually hear the person talk and see them. But since that was literally not an option right now....

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Once Shunnosuke replied, he’d just throw his phone at his pillow and sat on his bed. Now his mind was a fuzz. He wouldn’t concentrate anymore on reading. Awesome.

Phone ringing again. It was him. He knew. Shunnosuke picked the device again, Sharaku’s name was there. He took a deep breath before opening the message notification once more. As much as he pondered leaving Sharaku to talk to the air alone...he wouldn’t. His hands betrayed him when he needed.

“Not trying? That’s a first then. I thought you didn’t need to try to actually be rude, it always comes off naturally.”

A bitter remark, maybe, but Shunnosuke didn’t feel like being amicable right now. A part of him felt guilty for trying to return even a single bit of what he felt the last meeting — or meetings — but the other part just thought Sharaku deserved it. Ah, he definitely did.

“What is it you want to talk about anyway? Something important?”, he added after thinking for a while. Not that he had interest in chatting, but...he had. Secretly. But Sharaku didn’t have to know.

Subject: Re: Peace? [Shun] Sun Aug 23, 2015 9:55 pm

Ah, now it was time for the snarkiness. Sharaku would obviously rather avoid that, but he kind of knew that was impossible. Well, it wasn't impossible per se. More like, as unlikely as him turning into a girl at this point. He doubted Shun would even try playing nice. Even though being bitter to all hell wasn't exactly the best thing in the world. He sure wouldn't see that as an extremely favorable trait to exhibit after only recently claiming that you have changed. Although, he would take it in stride this time. He wasn't about to let himself get baited into an argument even over text. If that was what he wanted, then he honestly wouldn't have bothered to message to begin with. Technically, for something to work, effort was sort of required from both sides. But he could ignore that for now.

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Good one. Should I consider that a talent of mine then?

..nothing specific. I wanted to see whether you were still mad at me or such. Probably nothing you'd consider important though. You're free to pick a topic, however. If you want to, that is ~

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Perhaps he could just take the offensively laced comments as compliments. Obviously, they weren't, but he was prepared for that. It's not like he wasn't aware that he did wrong at times.

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Was Sharaku really wanting to chat? Just like that? Wasn’t he the one who said, in the last time they met, that things don’t happen with the snap of fingers? That you can’t really act as friends and ignore everything bad that happened between them before that point? So what did he expect anyway, suggesting Shunnosuke to “pick a topic” for a “talk”? He seriously had some nerve to reprimand the teenager for trying and behaving the exact same way later.

“Your call, if it calms your conscience and helps you sleep at night.
Now why would I even be mad at you? You’re perfect and never does anything wrong. (:”

Yes, a smile at the end of the sentence, the utmost demonstration of passive-aggressiveness. Send button pressed, and Shunnosuke found himself getting anxious and biting his lip again. Was this the right thing to do...?

Subject: Re: Peace? [Shun] Sun Aug 23, 2015 10:40 pm

Please, his sleep was already messy enough. This sure wouldn't help it. But there was also no point in dissecting that particular matter. He was only mildly amused at this moment. He wasn't going to get deterred, nor provoked too easily. That would defeat the point of what he was doing here. Although, he was wondering whether Shun was seriously attempting to provoke him. For what reason, he had no idea. Afterall, the problem was him being rude and such, yes? Then why go out of your way to try to earn exactly that kind of response? Unless Shun just wanted to prove himself right in what he thought about him.

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I'll pass, thanks. I just thought I could perhaps consider it a compliment. I find myself calm enough ~

Hmm? I thought it isn't hard to find a reason to be mad at someone. Regardless of that, I wouldn't say I am. No one is perfect. Unless my info is outdated....

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This was rather hard. He was trying to avoid any possible pointless argument. But he couldn't ignore the jabs either, as that would be equivalent to ignoring the whole message, pretty much. But it's not easy to respond to that with something that does not somehow sound like a comeback. His aim wasn't to have a verbal war.

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By now, Shunnosuke was staring at the screen waiting for a response, that didn’t come too long after. A very elusive and diplomatic response, to be honest. Seriously, he could consider it whatever, it wasn’t Shunnosuke’s problem. He’d huff a bit and roll his eyes. Is this what Sharaku wanted to talk about?

“Being calm and being an ultimate rude jerk aren’t mutually exclusive.”

He would reply almost immediately. Yeah, that’s enough. He could add that some people pretend to think no one is perfect while acting as if they are, but dropping obvious hints were getting him nowhere. This was going a bit out of control, but Shun was blind right now. Clearly he was still affected by him.

“I’m not mad at you, if that’s all you need to know. Anything else?”

He kept wondering why did it matter if he was “mad” or not at the older, where “mad” is truly an understatement. So maybe he was, so what? So now his feelings matter? Now he was interested in how Shunnosuke felt? Days after?Awkward; Shunnosuke didn't buy it.

Subject: Re: Peace? [Shun] Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:39 am

...and apparently it wasn't mutually exclusive to being an asshole on purpose yourself. At the very least, he hadn't done it because he actually wanted to back then. He wasn't outwardly really a jerk until Shun blew on him all of a sudden. And it's kind of not easy to stop that kind of talk once it starts when the other side keeps butting back at you each time as well. Just sitting there and eating accusations is not exactly the way to victory either. Or anything, for the matter. Was he supposed to be all 'Yeeeah, I'm possibly not appearing as nice as I should be. So sorry to not meet your high expectations of the meeting. Let me just happily eat your blow up because it tastes so nice?' Kind of hard to imagine someone being completely cool with things. He wouldn't deny that he had his part in the blame, but literally jabbing it into his face like Shun had could only end in a few ways. The teen claimed to be trying to consider his side of the deal at first, but it felt like that went out of the window after a couple of minutes, with things going back to Shun looking mostly at how his own expectations and wants were being ruined again. Which was basically the point of what he was doing now, no? Holding a grudge and being spiteful because things happened to go badly. It's fine to be down over getting broken up with. He was fine with accepting that part. But all this snippy resentment was a bit too far, no? What was Shun, a kid that can't stop holding a grudge? Did being a jerk over text actually make him feel better about things? Considering how he had been trying to keep a normal conversation, but aside from possibly that first message, all he got back were jabs at himself. Really mature for a 17 year old. If that was how Shun would deal with every possible break up, maybe he should feel bad for anyone who ends up possibly experiencing that later. Because romantic relationships simply didn't work out all the time. That was only wishful thinking.

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Yes, you're not. Is that why you've been trying to provoke me during the entirety of this conversation?

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He would keep it simple this time. If that was what the teen really wanted to hear, he would get it. Even though he did not intend to have this go on a purely negative way. But it was kind of impossible to keep finding nice responses to those things he was getting back. At any rate, it wasn't as if he was being offensive anyway. He was just asking a legitimate question.

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Provoke him? Shunnosuke rolled his eyes at the screen. How much more self-centered could Sharaku be? Funny enough, isn’t that the kind of attitude he criticized Shun for? Making the older angry wasn’t the teenager’s intention, really! Sure, you couldn’t really say he was being the nicest person in the world either, and Shunnosuke felt in his total right to not be the nicest person; he tried before and it never worked out. Of course his behavior was a tad passive-aggressive. In his mind, it’s only fair after such display of cynicism, but at least so far he wasn’t being impolite. Protocolar, yes, not open to conversations, yes, but not impolite.

“Contrary to your expectations, not everything I do or say revolves around extracting any emotional reaction from you.
Insisting on such idea will get you nowhere.”

Alright. That’s enough, isn’t it? Sharaku wanted to prove himself right about Shun’s feelings — which he was —, and Shun dismissed it. Nah, he definitely wouldn’t give the guy the pleasure of feeling accurate. Oh no, not tonight.

Subject: Re: Peace? [Shun] Mon Aug 24, 2015 4:23 pm

Right. So what was it then? Shun's idea of a normal conversation? Because it sure didn't seem like one. Implications are one thing, but the fact that they are rather obviously meant in a negative kind of manner means something. And he would not just believe it was nothing, because it never was. That much he has learned already.

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Yes? I believe I did put in a question mark in my last message, therefore it was a question, not me insisting on anything. Neither am I aware as to why do you assume you know what am I expecting of you. I was simply posing a legitimate question, considering the responses you've been giving me up till now.

Unless you mean to tell me that putting a subtle jab against me in every single message is meant to be a decent conversation. Or are you doing it simply for your personal amusement then?

I am not sure how am I meant to carry on a conversation of any kind if all I get in response is that. I did give you the option of not responding to me in the beginning. If all you intend to do is being somewhat snarky towards me, why did you actually write back then?

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Writing long messages on a phone's keyboard was honestly a pain. But he wasn't interested in playing games like this. If all Shun wanted to do was being bitter and spiteful towards him in all different ways there are, then maybe he shouldn't have responded to begin with. It wasn't as if he had forced this conversation.

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Uh. Big blocks of pixel? He wasn’t expecting this. When it were simply isolated sentences, he was fine with that. Now, a wall.txt meant something he wasn’t really up for: an argument. Whether he aimed for it or not, they were reaching that corner again. At least, it's easier and less stressing than a face-to-face verbal clash, that much is guarantee.

“Don’t put yourself too high saying you “gave me the option”, because I knew beforehand I could just ignore if I wished so. Yet I decided to text back probably because I’m still polite enough to not let you or anyone talk to the air when I’m addressed to. Or would you prefer that I wouldn’t reply? That kind of ruins the point of sending me a message in first place, no?”

Alright. One thing Sharaku got half-right is that it’s everything very amusing to the teenager. Not the bickering, but...everything. He seriously wondered what Sharaku was expecting when he decided to text Shun. Like, they had said goodbye to each other, and not in a very favorable manner, so...what’s the point? Next time, he would ask what he had in mind when he thought it was a good idea.

“Are you feeling attacked by any means? I wonder why.”

Subject: Re: Peace? [Shun] Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:42 pm

Except for the fact that the 'option' wasn't meant in a literal sense. He knew it wasn't truly needed as he could get ignored regardless, and that had not been the point behind it. Then again, it was nothing new for Shun to pass over the actual point of what he meant and make it into a reason to put him down in some way. And frankly...if this is how it is meant to go, not responding would have actual been more polite. In his personal opinion, at least. Because technically, responding with the purpose of being snarky over everything just screams that you only want to be jerkish. Far from politeness in his mind.

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I don't have a reason to want that. You can put your bed higher than me, and it wouldn't truly worry me. I'll just say that you sort of missed the point. It wasn't meant to be literal. A figure of speech, if you will. I 'gave' you the option as a means of saying that I would not consider it impolite if you did choose to not respond.

It's because I wanted to attempt a normal conversation, not an exchange of bitter remarks. Therefore, if your sole purpose is to pick at everything I say and finding a flaw in it, it would by all means be more polite to not respond to begin with. That's just my personal opinion on the matter, however.

Which do you see as better. No response, or a response laced with some sort of spite? Personally, I'd lean towards the former, because I don't particularly see the positive part of the latter.

And no. I don't seriously feel attacked. Although I could easily do so from all that implied jabbing in your messages. I'm simply interested in understanding what positives you see in holding a sort of grudge. That is all.

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Truthfully, instead of feeling attacked, he would sooner just feel sorry for the teen. For it was a bit sad to let a negative experience influence you to that degree. In light of that, Shun was more rude than him, perhaps. Both of them went through some sort of negativeness in the past of what went on between them. So it wasn't only Shun being hurt all the time. Yet, in the end, the teen was the one marginally refusing to even talk normally. Would purposefully making it even worse actually satisfy Shun? Because he only saw it as a way of asking for more hurt in the end, one way or another.

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...he didn’t miss the point. Of course he knew Sharaku was speaking not literally, but figuratively. However, that was a bad word choice. Arrogant word choice, to be completely fair, and Shunnosuke just had to poke on it. As for anything else...just more blocks of text, extensive messages. Been there already, done that million times. Yep, it turned into an argument. Gosh, he wasn’t even trying. It’s like it’s merely natural for them to just bump heads more often than not. Other than that, he had enough already. His hands were shaking with anger and all myriad of emotions he tried to suppress the last few days.

“You can ignore the “jabbing”, as you insistently call it, if they bother you so much. Same goes to my “grudges”, whether I hold them or not, I’m afraid it does not concern anyone nor does it affect anyone in any shape or form, specially people I used to know and whom I barely talk to anymore. No one is really forcing you to keep in touch with me, at all.
But while we’re at it, I wonder, why did you think it was a good idea after everything you said to me last time? What kind of response were you expecting to garner after you made it verbally clear that you don’t care about me?”

Last part was added on impulse and when he noticed, the message was already sent. To him, there’s no point in pretending to be friends, checking if one is mad and claiming you don’t want to be on bad terms, all that altruistic crap after expressing in more ways than one that you’re blatantly inconsiderate of the other party’s feelings. That’s sort of the opposite of a friendship at all. And while he could be in a bad and sad mood due to a break up, Shunnosuke’s sour mood towards Sharaku was not due to the end of whatever relationship they had. He wasn’t that immature and sadly Sharaku was too blind to certain things the teenager was tired of explaining once again. Enough is enough.

Subject: Re: Peace? [Shun] Tue Aug 25, 2015 7:32 am

Riiiight. So it doesn't concern or affect him all of a sudden. Even though a good part of it has something to do with him. Now what kind of a logic is that? Just because you've decided to ignore the person in question, it doesn't mean everything stopped mattering along with that choice of yours. That's not how things work. And Shun just basically used almost the same thing he had been so carefully pointing out before against him. No, he hadn't been forced to keep in touch, very obviously. Same as the fact that the teen did not have to respond to his original query at all. So much for going out of your way to poke at one thing when you say something very similar a moment later.

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Do you really believe something like that? The world doesn't move one way because you think it should. The fact that you barely keep in touch with someone or whatever else you have in mind along with it, in no way means it doesn't concern or affect them. Concern may be debatable, depending on the person in question, but I'd say you don't get to choose whether it has an effect or not. The fact that it even has something to do with me at all already makes it have an effect. People aren't things you can just put away in a box and seal it whenever you feel like it. Sadly, that's how the world works. We all have to deal with it.

....Maybe you should take a moment to think calmly for a second. If it was true that I did not care at all, why would I be spending precious time messaging you to begin with? (And I daresay, phones are evil to type on)

Regardless of that, maybe this is where we differ. I don't know, maybe it's because I'm not as much of an asshole as you keep painting me as? Then again, I gather that you think I don't understand. That notwithstanding....I never meant that I don't care. I did say that I was willing to go the route of staying friends back then. You didn't even take it into consideration because you were busy lamenting over how I don't want to date you anymore or give you a second chance in regards to romance. I wasn't really given a different choice than to simply say bye in that situation, since you yourself were putting on an air that nothing besides the kind of relationship you wanted with me actually matters. If I kept trying to explain anything, you would have most likely thought I'm just attempting to argue more. So I took your standpoint on it. I decided to not add more fuel to the fire right there and then, because I knew there was a high chance whatever I said would end up being exactly that.

I don't know what you think, but I'm just trying to be honest. I will admit that I do have a quick temper at times, and I was sort of annoyed that you burst out at me with no warning back then. And I am sorry for that. However, 'bad' mood goes both ways, I believe. You must be being continually dissmisive towards me now because you feel a certain way, yes? Who's to say I didn't back then? People's responses at any given situation aren't always clear-cut. If you can be affected by the way something made you feel in the past to this extent, then so can I or anyone else in the world.

I could also ask back. Why do you think it is entirely such a bad idea? You thought it was a good idea to try giving me a story of you and your parents after the fiasco of our meeting before that. And you did just so, with your own expectations of it. (And just to avoid confusion. I'm using that simply as an example. Not meant to be any form of offense)

Point is. Just because I didn't necessarily care much about certain matters pertaining to the conversation at hand (Nor do I really enjoy arguments of that kind), it doesn't exactly equal me not caring at all. You know well how to say offensive comments yourself, but I'm not the type to be spiteful over things like that forever. The moment one starts with negativity, it's almost guaranteed they will get some back. The only point I see in keeping at it, is if you actually want to achieve hurting yourself more in the end. And it wouldn't even have to be me as a source.

...Now, excuse me for a moment while I attempt to throw this piece of junk at the wall. I think I just got reminded why I normally do not text over phone.

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While he did have a certain urge to point out some other things, he figured it would just come down to Shun denying everything and brushing it off as mere assuming, so he opted not to. That, and he was seriously getting annoyed with this keyboard. He was definitely not lying about that.

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